tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363356760450940988.post5205375727138437620..comments2023-05-22T10:24:47.725-04:00Comments on Re-Learning To Teach: Day 10: On Testing and FeedbackJustinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13309915942161862912noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363356760450940988.post-19360381831364834642014-09-21T15:40:39.545-04:002014-09-21T15:40:39.545-04:00I love this suggestion. I should try it on some qu...I love this suggestion. I should try it on some quizzes in my class. Thanks, Max!Michael Pershanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17046644130957574890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363356760450940988.post-56013719125358424032014-09-11T23:04:19.571-04:002014-09-11T23:04:19.571-04:00Max is onto something, in terms of making things m...Max is onto something, in terms of making things more digestible for students. Another (radical?) possibility is this idea that I proposed to a teacher a couple of years ago. Instead of leaving them room to write IDK (and I mean cultural room, not physical room), set the expectation that they write some ideas for every question. For every one for which they write nothing, it's negative points. Seriously. Naturally, you will want to have practiced in class what one might do when one has no idea. Like notice and wonder, or write a few things they are pretty sure are true. But make it clear that you believe that everyone has ideas about every problem. And give them ideas about how to share some of those ideas.<br /><br />(The teacher I proposed this to loved it, but since he was required to give students a 60 for any paper they turned in - not kidding - he was pretty sure it wouldn't fly in the school.)Annie Fetterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08514065108316890542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363356760450940988.post-46552248869828714392014-09-09T22:36:38.809-04:002014-09-09T22:36:38.809-04:00I think getting the kids to recognise and communic...I think getting the kids to recognise and communicate their own mistakes is an awesome idea. It's so much more meaningful if students can figure out for themselves where they went wrong (by talking to friends, looking through their notes...) then to just have it written on the test in front of them. And hopefully it will stick more so they remember not to do it next time. <br />I agree though that it could be overwhelming if a student did really poorly, and that highlighting a few questions that they could really learn from would help overcome that.<br />I'm definitely using this next week when my seniors get their exams back!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363356760450940988.post-3383149155050571662014-09-09T16:08:51.807-04:002014-09-09T16:08:51.807-04:00This is a great idea! I want them to be doing more...This is a great idea! I want them to be doing more presenting anyway!Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13309915942161862912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363356760450940988.post-3900999574286826092014-09-09T16:08:18.500-04:002014-09-09T16:08:18.500-04:00Thank you. This is incredibly good advice. Thank ...Thank you. This is incredibly good advice. Thank you!Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13309915942161862912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363356760450940988.post-44616629066152495862014-09-09T12:56:04.158-04:002014-09-09T12:56:04.158-04:00Dude, you and Michael Pershan should write a book ...Dude, you and Michael Pershan should write a book or host a Global Math Department or give each other high fives on Twitter or something for writing so much about how to give meaningful feedback on routine quizzes. Between the 2 of you I imagine you'll have this nailed by January.<br /><br />It looks like the hive mind agrees that giving back all the wrongs and rights at once might be overwhelming.<br /><br />I have a slightly different suggestion with the goal of 1) saving you time and 2) helping the kiddos learn a new thing.<br /><br />Suggestion: read the quizzes. Think about them. Write down what you need to write down for yourself about how each person did or how the class did or whatever. Maybe make copies so you can give them more feedback on this same quiz later. Then for each kid pick two problems and highlight them. Highlight one they got right and one they got wrong. Use different colors. Tell them, "for the yellow one, there was something I really liked about your thinking. Write me 2 sentences about your thinking about that problem so I can bask in your brilliance and share it with others." Tell them, "for the orange one, I specifically highlighted something that I think if you go think about it again, you might want to change, add, or revise something. For some of you I wrote a note, too. For that one, revise your thinking and write me 1 sentence saying if my highlighting/note was helpful to you and why or why not."<br /><br />That gives every kid something they can do, and it's worthwhile.<br /><br />If the 2 sentences you get are good, you can use them to make a student generated answer key and they can check and revise their own quizzes the next day if they want to see "what they got". There's no rule that says you have to be the one to tell them which are right and which are wrong!Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16935784635103701185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363356760450940988.post-86700244463153773252014-09-08T20:14:16.540-04:002014-09-08T20:14:16.540-04:00I like that idea. What if they each were only resp...I like that idea. What if they each were only responsible for one, but had to present it to the class?Beth Skwareckihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13211386112225023978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363356760450940988.post-61953394805192812282014-09-08T18:59:07.061-04:002014-09-08T18:59:07.061-04:00I wonder if asking the students to figure out wher...I wonder if asking the students to figure out where they went wrong for all their mistakes is too overwhelming. Maybe asking them to choose one or two would feel more doable. They'd still have to look at many of them to figure which would be the easiest to correct so you'll have them thinking about it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12738337403351667073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7363356760450940988.post-42447620996080620652014-09-08T18:55:22.123-04:002014-09-08T18:55:22.123-04:00Heyyyyyyyyy I'm back!!!! So look you are bored...Heyyyyyyyyy I'm back!!!! So look you are bored and I get it I mean I am too so...find a way not to be. You are a very, er, high energy person and part of the reason you were such a memorable teacher last year was because you were trying something new too. Learning with us. So. Learn something new.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14323256873825778170noreply@blogger.com